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What do you think of his views on your religion? He stared in the movie about the mountain meadows massacre. He has stated that he thinks that BY probably knew about it and ordered the massacre. Maybe he is right? or Maybe he is wrong about everything.
I know he was in the movie about the mountain meadows massacre. He is also friends with Glenn Beck. He is an awesome actor in the mini series "Return to Lonesome Dove" He was a radical liberal in the 60's and protested the Vietnam war. Now just like David Horowitz he has come to his senses.
Or he has now gone insane. And being friends with Glenn Beck proves the theory. The man is crazy.
But do you also agree cwith his views on your religion? He believes Brigham Young ordered the killing.
He was also in a movie where there was a huge cavern inside of Mount Rushmore. It was called "National Treasure 2" September dawn came out before the new book on the mountain meadows massacre by turlington. Maybe he has read it now and knows the truth.
Well Turley did write a book. And there has not been evidence found that implicates Brigham Young. But the thing that I cannot overlook is that he and other church leaders essentially let everyone off the hook. They would not cooperate with the criminal investigation. And actively fought against it. The only person ever prosecuted was John Dee Lee. And that was something like 20 years after the fact. If they were so innocent why hide the truth. Maybe they just didn't trust the govt. but they were the ones that created the situation to make it a controversy even today.
And Voight and all the teabaggers are just naive in thinking that any new politicians such as Palin will really do anything to create change. Her record doesn't jive with her statements. She didn't do away with Federal handouts and as I stated before she had her hand out a number of times when she was mayor.
And people like Glenn Beck are really just opportunists that see a good opportunity to make money off of the situation. How many books has Beck put out in the last few years. He has also been involved in publishing Skousen books and then promoting them on his programs. And selling the book on his website. Skousen may have written about some important things that the country has moved away from and has many good points. He was also a radical. He made up many stories that he included in his early works and in his lectures. He claimed to have worked against communism in the FBI but his work record does not bear this out. He also claims to have work directly with Hoover and this is a lie that the FBI has commented about. Most of the groups that he was involved with either fired him or distanced themselves from him including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints. So while his claims and books seem logical on the outside his lack of sources and misuse of sources make him unreliable.
Oh the reason I brought up Beck and Skousen is that I saw your endorsment of Eager on the Skinner report. She is a Skousenite through and through.
going to slate magazine for info about Skousen is hardly a good source. As for Brigham Young politically it made perfect sense to keep it quiet. He already had the government breathing down his neck about polygamy plus he had to put up with falsehoods being spread around back east. What would you do? I certainly wouldn't write a telegram to a government that you mistrust and say "look we've had a massacre and I wasn't involved but local members of our church acted on their own." That is just asking for the Federal Government to send more troops. Unless you've been in their shoes it is pretty hard to criticize.
But they already knew it was a massacre and that it wasn't just the indians. Like I said it took 20 years for Lee to be brought to trial. And why were they doing polygamy and denying it? They even denied it to prospective members. John Taylor swore up and down that they were not practicing polygamy. But at the same time he had a number of wives. He was a missionary in England at the time. I really don't care if he was an apostle he should walk the talk. And if you want to get down and dirty what of the article of faith that states "We believe in and in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers and magistrates, in obeying, honoring and sustaining the law." Why are we to obey the law today but it was "OK" to do what you pleased then?
As for Slate Magazine being my source... sorry. Here is a link to a lot of source material for the above claims about Cleon Skousen.
http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/skousen
Did the federal government have the authority under the constitution to say what type of marriage was legal? The answer is no. Besides Utah was only a territory during the time of Brigham Young and John Taylor. Brigham Young gave women the right to vote and the federal government did everything in it's power to take that right away. That was also unconstitutional.
No, it wasn't right for the federal govt. to say what kind of marriage was legal. And today it is not right to continue to do the same either for the federal or state governments. But most churches,including the LDS church which should know better, are in favor of legislating what marriage is. The state has no business in it one way or another.
As for Brigham Young giving women the vote that was a very progressive thing for him to do. But then on the other hand the mormons usually voted as a block for whomever the "brethren" told them to vote for. Even in the late 1800's and early 1900's the church often told them who to vote for. B.H. Roberts got all upset about this once because it cost him an election. He was a Democrat at the time. But at the time people were assigned to be a Democrat.
Did you read the essay on Skousen? He was an opportunist.
The constitution gives people any power not specifically given to the federal government. The California referendum was the voice of the people and so was the one in Maine. It does not give mayors such as the one in San Francisco or Judges such as the ninth circuit court that authority.
I don't like Brigham Young referred to as a progressive but I also know most of his economic experiments where socialistic in nature and failed until they where turned over to free enterprise. The sugar factory in sugarhouse is an example. Skousen was not perfect but he made important contributions to our understanding of the founding fathers. They also said J edgar Hoover was gay but I seriously doubt that.
Actually after listening to that book on Alexander Hamilton I can see why people think he was gay. Those letters he wrote to that one guy he was with in the military are really gay sounding.
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